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Q&A with Frank:
How did you become an
authority on the Science
of Social Dynamics?
It all started back in
late 2002 - early 2003
when I was at the top of
the sales game and
realized that I could
benefit myself and
others more by teaching
the secrets that made me
a star performer rather
than simply continuing
on in the sales
profession. I decided to
put my lead-generation
techniques on paper and
sell them as a package,
and sure enough the
product took off and led
to my best-selling
books. However, I knew
that giving salespeople
a list of
lead-generation tactics
wasn't enough; leads are
worthless if salespeople
can't close them quickly
and easily.
In talking with
salespeople who were
reading my books I
identified the same
patterns over and over:
those salespeople were
getting plenty of hot
leads using my systems
but were approaching
those prospects from a
position of weakness.
And in the real world,
no matter how hot the
leads are, if you give
up your power and
approach those people
from a position of
inferiority and
supplication, they
simply won't trust you
with their business. At
that point I began
teaching others my
knowledge of the science
of social dynamics and
enabling them to use it
for success.
You mention the blanket
term "success"; is the
information you teach
applicable to sales, or
to other areas as well?
The science of social
dynamics is most
definitely applicable in
all areas of business as
well as life in general.
In fact, this knowledge
and understanding has
improved my personal
life and relationships
just as much as it has
improved my business
life, and I hear the
same feedback from
others.
The big problem in the
world today - business
and personal - is that
people are caught in an
endless chase. They
chase the things they
want. They chase the
people they want. They
chase the money, the
jobs, the marriages they
want ... and as I'm
known to say, "Those who
are chased never want to
be caught." What I do is
show people not only how
to stop chasing, but how
to destroy the invisible
barriers that make us
chase in the first
place.
Why did you decide to
leave the sales
profession and follow
the path you've chosen
instead?
It comes down to how I
was spending my time in
sales: as a top
performer, any and every
other salesperson I knew
was always picking my
brains, and I genuinely
enjoy helping others so
I spent time with them
to help them improve. It
was then that I realized
just how valuable my
knowledge really was,
and even though I was
excelling in sales, the
prospect of becoming an
author, a speaker, a
teacher to others was a
lot more attractive than
continuing in the sales
profession.
As I mentioned earlier,
I sold my
lead-generation
strategies as an online
package, and it sold so
well and so suddenly -
it really was an
overnight sensation -
that publishers began
calling soon after and,
as they say, the rest is
history!
Frank, why the focus on
social dynamics when
you're so well-known for
your bestselling sales
books?
The answer is simple:
leverage. By teaching
the science of social
dynamics, and by
interpreting problems
through that science, I
can help far more people
and organizations than I
ever could just by
teaching sales
techniques.
Don't get me wrong - I
love sales, I love
talking about it, I love
teaching it! But there's
always a bigger picture,
and the bigger picture
for me was the
realization that I was
already teaching
advanced social dynamics
and power principles to
salespeople. When I
started a private
coaching group, I was
surprised to see that
most of the members were
not employed salespeople
but instead were
executives,
entrepreneurs, business
owners. Their feedback
was that the information
I've been teaching is
far too valuable to
restrict to salespeople
and that so many more
could stand to benefit
from it. With that in
mind I began to shift my
focus away from teaching
salespeople and toward
coaching, consulting,
and speaking to
organizations and
executives who could
apply my knowledge on
much higher levels.
You talk about power a
lot ... what do you mean
by power?
I'm glad you asked,
because that word power
is misinterpreted so
frequently. When I talk
about power, I'm not
talking about the use of
power to intimidate and
control, or to bully, or
otherwise misuse power
as a "means to an end."
In fact, one of the
first things I want
people to know is that
the old concept of
power, that of
authority-based
influence, is long gone.
The problem today,
however, is that
pandering and
approval-seeking have
come to replace
authority-based
influence. And that's
just as bad, if not
worse. Nobody likes
authority-based
influence and being
bossed around, but
pandering and begging
and chasing are no
better.
As an example, imagine
any negotiation. It can
be a sales appointment,
it can be world leaders
sitting at the
bargaining table, it can
be as basic as asking
someone on a date. But
the bottom line is that
many interactions in
life - and almost all in
business - are
negotiations, and in
every negotiation, one
side wants something and
the other side can say
"yes" or "no" and that's
the side that has the
power.
I show people how to
show up to every
situation, every
negotiation, with the
power, and how to keep
that power through to
the very end to come to
a mutually beneficial
conclusion for everyone
involved.
What exactly do you do
for people and
organizations?
I show people how to
get, keep, and use
personal power with
mutual respect to get
anything, anywhere. I
work with organizations
to interpret their
businesses and their
challenges through the
science of social
dynamics and to help
them redefine who they
are with a focus on
effectively implementing
and influencing through
personal power. I show
others how to stand up,
show up, and use their
power to maximize
performance, address
leadership issues, and
attract the results they
want, rather than
chasing those results
like a dog chasing its
tail.
To sum it up, I use the
science of social
dynamics to unleash
unstoppable people and
organizations!
There's more to life
than business. What
hobbies or other
interests do you have?
I don't believe in being
a workaholic or working
24/7. In fact the entire
purpose of my first
sales training product
was to show salespeople
how to get more results
while working less
hours! So a healthy
balance between work and
play is a big part of my
life.
I recently moved to
Southern California, so
exploring all that's new
to me has been a big
part of life lately, as
well as lots and lots of
working out thanks to
living next-door to the
area's top personal
trainer! I'm also an
avid shooter and I enjoy
the shooting sports
immensely and am a
regular at my local
range. And, when time
allows, I'm a Food
Network junkie and love
trying new things in the
kitchen. My other half
is extremely creative -
she paints, she sews,
she even built our
entertainment center,
and she has one of the
funniest cats - so
there's always something
fun going on around
here.
Speaking of
entertainment, I try to
avoid watching a lot of
television but I'm
hooked on House M.D. In
the literary world, my
favorite novelist is Ayn
Rand - Atlas Shrugged
tops my list of
favorites. Musically,
I'm a huge Rush fan ...
I love their music
immensely, and their
many Rand-inspired
lyrics help too! |